. >> steve liesman is here. we were going to talk about the markets and we have rick santelli in chicago, both of them as well but steve, since you were talking during the break with ken langone. >> let steve talk to rick. >> hey, rick, how are you? >> good morning. >> so we talked. is that good? >> no. >> no, i just want to say, ken, if i look, guys could you put up the chart of the payrolls? if i look at the payroll chart and i talk about what i think is the number you guys actually believe, which is the 114,000. look at what happened, we've revised up the past couple months, we had that swoon in march, april, may and june, okay, the unemployment rate stayed about the same. look to the left, we had a couple months above 200,000. let's focus on the number you believe. and let's talk about what jack welch said. when i looked at what he said there was one number i think jack had wrong. jack was saying we need 150,000 to 200,000 jobs to lower the unemployment rate. that is, was old thinking. we've changed that num